Saturday 18th August 2007

This transcript has been been approved by both Jaimz Woolvett and Gordon Michael Woolvett. 
Do not publish elsewhere without permission.

PART 4 of 4 

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Jill_D: So, Now Gordon can spill all the dirt. :)
onon: yeah
Darth.Hunter: heh heh
Foxy: yeah!!
FnlPrblm: lol
Foxy: hehe
mare_serenitatis: Lol and now Gordon can tell us all of Jaimz' dirty secrets ;)
Darth.Hunter: Revenge of the Gordon
MistyQue: ok so we're safe now, Gordon tell us smth funny abt u'r bro
Parisindy1: Gord, have you started filming yet on your new show?
age: I hope they don't get dirtier than what we've already heard!
elyc: maaaaaany dirty secrets! :)
Jill_D: oh, good point
MistyQue: lol mare we think alike
age: I won't be able to watch Andromeda the same way again.
Gordon Michael Woolvett: I've told lots already. It wouldn't be fair without him here to defend himself.
mare_serenitatis: great minds *smirk*
hannahthewriter: he did it while you weren't here!
hannahthewriter: I mean, erm, nothing...
Foxy: jup
MistyQue: ha, but he'd do it if u weren't around!
droma97: Ah, isn't that nice? Brotherly loyalty
Gordon Michael Woolvett: Its all brand new (the show). So no schedules or anything yet.
Parisindy1: cool :)
hannahthewriter: Is there a dog?
droma97: We Can't Wait!!!
Jill_D: Just don't let them make you cut your hair for it, k.
akajipster: hehe
littleredhead: Yeah, what Jill said
droma97: We have serious Woolvett addictions that need feeding
ElJay: Can't wait to see it; I hope it airs in the Us too.
Gordon Michael Woolvett: heh heh. But remember: Mum's the word. Details still have to be worked out etc. etc.
onon: germany must wait...
Foxy: hope it will be on air in Germany!
MistyQue: romania too
Foxy: and Not on Rtl2
MistyQue: must wait a loooong time
Jill_D: who would I tell?
Parisindy1: *tries to get the word from her mum*
onon: i am so sad..
Gordon Michael Woolvett: Is anybody going to Dragoncon in Atlanta?
ElJay: We don't talk to anyone else anyhow... your secret is safe.
FnlPrblm: Are you looking to possibly write an epie for the new show if you can?
hannahthewriter: sadly no :(
akajipster: Me!!
droma97: We won't tell anybody, but since we all know, who would we tell except those on the Woolvettboard.
Darth.Hunter: Unfortunately not, no money to fly to the Usa
MistyQue: i can't, i'm too far away
littleredhead: Jill, you could tell your neighbor the donkey.
ElJay: I'll be at Dragon Con!
droma97: Me
hannahthewriter: hehehehehe
MistyQue: and no sponsor either
hannahthewriter: *sniff*
hacker19: I don't have the time to fly there :(
hannahthewriter: *is crazy jealous*
FnlPrblm: I'd like to Gordon, but it falls on my busiest weekend of the year.
Foxy: unfortunately not :(
onon: come to germany
hannahthewriter: Gordon, come over here!
Mara: I don't have the time, nor the money
mare_serenitatis: Won't you get into trouble for telling us? Some companies let their actors sign a treaty that they won't tell anything before the official release, or so I heard
Jill_D: I am broke. Atlanta is far away.
Foxy: come to europe
Gordon Michael Woolvett: That's 3. Alright! Sorry hanna & Fnl & Mara
Darth.Hunter: yes, come to Germany! Gordon for Fedcon! :D
littleredhead: I have no time off from work to go.
Jill_D: I keep swaying, why the heck don't these things ever come to Idaho?
DoktorAxt: gordon for germany!
onon: germany
droma97: I'm bringing one more
hannahthewriter: No probs, you'll get here one day
Foxy: not fedcon, an evening with would be better ;)
MistyQue: gordon for germany!!!
droma97: I'd bring everyone I know if I could
mare_serenitatis: how about a round trip to Idaho and Germany?
hacker19: just europe where isnt important there are plains cars and trains ;)
Gordon Michael Woolvett: Mare re treaty: like I said, details have to be determined and papers signed etc. So that's why it has to be between all of you and me and the apple tree.
FnlPrblm: It's cool Gordon. But if you got Laura to go, I'd consider quitting all three jobs. ;) lol j/k
ElJay: Aw come on guys--share; Gordon's been to Germany already. I want to see him too!
mare_serenitatis: and Romania, of course
onon: yes to germany and idaho^^
Foxy: did you tell us something? i don't remember. ;)
DoktorAxt: Eljay, then come to germany too ;)
MistyQue: ok then gordon for romania!!!
Jill_D: Idaho is nice... We have...um...trees.
Jill_D: potatoes
droma97: Hey, He's Canadian and he doesn't even come here! No bad feelings intended, Gordon
onon: lol
Gordon Michael Woolvett: I'd love to go to Romania.
littleredhead: and donkeys too Jill
hannahthewriter: Looks like you're gonna be doing a world tour, Gord
Darth.Hunter: Yeah, Bonn rocks!
ElJay: I can't afford to go that far, sadly; I'd love to go back to Germany. Atlanta is only a few hours away.
onon: bilefeld rocks
Gordon Michael Woolvett: Where is "here" Droma?
Darth.Hunter: Like Avery Brooks said: "star Trek has definitely changed my life. I'm here in Bonn now"
droma97: Alright, Misty! You take pics when he does!
MistyQue: i'd suggest to come visit it on late spring, beginning of the summer
DoktorAxt: ok gordon would you be so kind to pick me up on your way to romania? :) just kidding :)
droma97: southern ontario
Jill_D: cows..
Gordon Michael Woolvett: heh heh Doktoraxt
Jill_D: sagebrush...
Darth.Hunter: onon also wants you to come to Germany ^^
elyc: me too...
onon: yes yes
DoktorAxt: yeah me too
DoktorAxt: so gordon it seems to me as if you have no choice. germany wants You ;)
Jill_D: My cat has 28 toes. There, now you want to come to Idaho, don't you.
hannahthewriter: Uk Wants You!!!
onon: we all want harper.....gordon^^
FnlPrblm: lol
elyc: *lol* @ jill
FnlPrblm: Gordon is so loved
hacker19: well could happen ^^
hannahthewriter: We have ... tea and biscuits!!!
Foxy: Europe wants you!
Gordon Michael Woolvett: 28 toes??? Your kidding? Is it a toe-cat?
MistyQue: the whole world wants u
littleredhead: Umm how about L.a. wants Gordon to come too?
hannahthewriter: La has Jaimz!
Jill_D: Nope, not kidding. He has many extra toes on his feet.
Gordon Michael Woolvett: How are you by the way little Redhead?
littleredhead: I'm good thanks Gordon.
Gordon Michael Woolvett: I want to here more about the cat with 28 toes
Jill_D: lol
elyc: *gg*
onon: lol
MistyQue: lol
Eliane: *hehe*
Foxy: hehe
MistyQue: priorities
Jill_D: My one claim to fame.
FnlPrblm: Maybe the cat can have a part in the new show. ;)
lucyfrog: Gord, did you get my message about hooking up sometime in So.cal.?
DoktorAxt: man thats unfair why dont i have such a cat too? :(
Mara: i have six cats, with no anomalies at all
hacker19: hmm do you live somewhere near a nuclear powerplant ?
akajipster: I think he's been a bit swamped with questions in the mod box lol
Jill_D: He's got huge front feet. Three extra toes on each, and one extra toe on each back foot. Name's Ike. And he's a paranoid wimp. :)
Darth.Hunter: cats are cool. Mine would always beat up a dog who was like ten times bigger, it would open closed doors etc...funny creatures
Gordon Michael Woolvett: Is that 3.1 toes per life or a total of 252 toes in all nine?
ElJay: Hhehe
droma97: and you said you didn't like math
MistyQue: and u said u couldn't count
lucyfrog: thx jipster, i figured he likely was...
Jill_D: *brain explodes from math*
Gordon Michael Woolvett: I did lucyfrog. It will be a while before we get back to Socal. Is that where you are now
onon: brain is futhsc
droma97: one and one are two....
hannahthewriter: Gordon, are you aware of the old school photos of you that have cropped up on facebook ;)
akajipster: oh yeah
lucyfrog: no, i'm in the hometown now... socal not likely for a while either.
akajipster: doing Van Halen impressions?
droma97: someone pass them along on the woolvettboard!
hannahthewriter: teehee!
Jill_D: Where do I see these photos?
Gordon Michael Woolvett: Which is correct: 2 and 2 is five or 2 and 2 are five?
MistyQue: 2 and 2 is 4
ElJay: No, no. Two and two are 16.
DoktorAxt: neither nor. 2 and 2 are four
droma97: neither, it's 4. I'm not that tired. :-)
onon: 2 and 2 is 5 and 5 minus 2 4
hannahthewriter: Hey Jip jips, I think the Van Halen shirt is the one they were fighting over...
Gordon Michael Woolvett: Heh he. Its better said than read.
DoktorAxt: uh it's "it's" ?
MistyQue: he's checking if we're sleeping or not
droma97: Depends on if we are talking rabbits or not
Jill_D: Is it in cut time or common?
FnlPrblm: Two and two is what ever what you want it to be if you're accountant is good enough. ;)
Mara: lol
littleredhead: Maybe so Misty
MistyQue: ha
hannahthewriter: gotta run now dudeydudes
Darth.Hunter: Lol
droma97: Must have caffeine........
DoktorAxt: lol darth & droma :D
Gordon Michael Woolvett: I am starting to yawn too now.
hannahthewriter: officially firs time ever I've left a woolvett chat early...
DoktorAxt: cu hannah
Jill_D: bye Hannah. Email Me!
Gordon Michael Woolvett: Good to talk to you again hannah
droma97: We won't let you leave yet, Gordon :-)
hannahthewriter: good to talk to you too, Fudgie! hope the next chat will be soon
onon: gordon must stay here^^
DoktorAxt: what time is it at your's now gordon?
droma97(Q): What sort of jobs did you guys have when you were younger?
Gordon Michael Woolvett (A): I worked at Red Lobster as a waiter for 3 months. And at a music store selling pianos and guitars.
onon: good question droma
Jill_D: hehehehe
droma97: wow, the questions really are backlogged!
akajipster: Hannah had to go bug the guy who owns the Harper shop in her town...
Jill_D: there's a Harper shop in her town?
littleredhead: Yes Jill
akajipster: yeps
droma97: I'll bet you were great at both jobs
lucyfrog: i've gotta jet too... it's nearly 2:30 am and morning comes way too early around here. Great chatting with you Gord. Email me so we can catch up some more and stay in touch!
onon: im jealous
akajipster: Harper's Hardware hehe
Jill_D: seriously?
FnlPrblm: She already has a ton of times Jipster. Unfortunately, I think she scares the owner with her Harper impressions. ;)
littleredhead: Night Lucy
Jill_D: Night lucy
Gordon Michael Woolvett: Take care Thumper!
lucyfrog: you're a brat.
Darth.Hunter: Warning: Do not operate heavy machinery or navigate the slipstream while under the influence of this beverage (sparky - cola (label), 219 Afc)
ElJay: I keep seeing a small town down here called "gordon's Landing". There's also "harper's Ferry"
Gordon Michael Woolvett: I want to see this Harper's Hardware. There had better be some spare exotic matter drives and carbon nanotubes kicking around.
Parisindy1: i have a sparky cafe on gordon road
droma97: Impressive!
Parisindy1: and herbert is not far from here
littleredhead: and a spare dataport too
MistyQue: or u'll make rommie kick them
droma97: Eeee, Herbert! *sigh*
ElJay: Yes Droma, it looks as if he and Harper both have there own.
lucyfrog: thanks all, Night!
MistyQue: by the way gordon, did u browse the Anime Andromeda topic?
onon: night
Gordon Michael Woolvett: Night!
droma97: Wow. Seems right somehow
akajipster: ohh they've upgraded its now Harpers Department store lol Harpers Department Store website
MistyQue: i made the characters anime style
MistyQue: including u
Jill_D: lol
littleredhead: Oh cool Jips
Jill_D: thanks for the link, Jips.
FnlPrblm: Mistyque, I think your link previously was before Gordon got here.
littleredhead: It's kismet that Harper's Hardware is near Hannah's place.
Gordon Michael Woolvett: Mistyque, I did not. On this board or the Woolvettboard?
MistyQue: yes that was for his brother
FnlPrblm: I checked it out though. It was cool. :)
droma97: Maybe Hannah can get you a new nano-manipulator for Christmas, Gordon.
MistyQue: on the woolvettboard
MistyQue: it's on posts to and from gmw
MistyQue: want the link gordon?
Gordon Michael Woolvett: I will have a look tomorrow. I am seriously behind.
Darth.Hunter: hmm custom-built or set props, droma?
droma97: set
droma97(Q): When you were singing in all those different languages, and moving around, how did you keep it up, Gordon?
Gordon Michael Woolvett (A): Lots of coffee!
Darth.Hunter: cool
elyc: lol
MistyQue: please leave a comment with your opinion if u can
Gordon Michael Woolvett: Will do Mistyque.
MistyQue: thx a lot!!!
droma97: Yeah, caffeine.
Parisindy1(Q): It seems like jaimz always does the cowboy films while gord does the sci fi... do either of you have a prefered genre?
Gordon Michael Woolvett (A): Old question I know... but... I do prefer the sci-fi. I am a geek at heart.
droma97: Jaimz rides, Gordon flies
elyc: geeks ruuule...:)
ElJay: Agreed!
Foxy: can you ride, Gordon?
Parisindy1(Q): Do either of you watch the CFL? and who do you cheer for?
Gordon Michael Woolvett (A): I will always be a Ti-cat at heart too.
elyc: cfl?
akajipster: canadian football, I get it now on some random satelite channel
ElJay: Ti-cat?
droma97: loaded question, Gordon. Say 'saskatchewan Roughriders' if you value your life.
elyc: ahh
droma97: Too late
akajipster: prefer the brit football :)
Gordon Michael Woolvett: I figured that ship had sailed.
hacker19: there is football outside the Nfl ?
akajipster: I'll be at wembley on wednesday for England vs Germany :)
Darth.Hunter: Rheinfire!
littleredhead: You'll get to see Beckham then
ElJay: More important question is, is there football *inside* the Nfl/
Gordon Michael Woolvett: I mean... Go Roughriders...! (sorry Parisindy)
Jill_D: I'll be at school Wed for Jill verses 13-year-olds.
droma97: heehee, Jill
littleredhead: Poor Jill
Parisindy1: Ticats! Blasphme!
ElJay: Good luck in that bout, Jill.
droma97: that's probably harder than football
akajipster: ehehe
hacker19: are we talking football or soccer ^^
Foxy: football
Parisindy1: hehe you are forgiven gord
akajipster: they are talking 'football' I'm talking football... the sport where feet are actually used lol
Gordon Michael Woolvett: Football. Like Rugby.
droma97: Football in England is like soccer
akajipster: soccer.. urgh... stoopid term...
onon: soccer is cool^^
droma97: haha, Jipster and correct too. But we kick the ball.
FnlPrblm: yay Football/soccer!
droma97: Soccer as in Sock'em, the fans, I mean
Jill_D: what about hopscotch?
DoktorAxt(Q): @ Gordon: If there was no Harper (oh my god!!!) in Andromeda, which charakter you would have liked to play instead?
Gordon Michael Woolvett (A): Tyr.
elyc: *looool*
onon: lol
hannahthewriter(Q): Who would win in a fight, me or Jips?
Gordon Michael Woolvett (A): Parisindy
akajipster: true
Jill_D: Lol
droma97: You have a real mean look. You could pull it off , Gordon
hacker19: lol
elyc: would Loved to see in a chain mail! :)
Jill_D: That is a good answer
hacker19: but Tyr ???
ElJay: Mmmm--gmw in chainmail and tight leather... drool...
DoktorAxt: hehehe
akajipster: eljay you realise you said that outloud right? hehe
Mara: *rrrrrrr*
droma97: towels are available in the lounge
Foxy: *gggg*
Mara: sometimes i hate my imagination
elyc: *looool*
Parisindy1: i could take both of them ;)
droma97: See what you started, Gordon? :-)
Gordon Michael Woolvett: heh heh. I was trying to move on
akajipster: hehe
elyc: *ggg*
Jill_D: i didn't say anything.
onon: lol
droma97: Good Jill
hacker19: *gg*
littleredhead: Dear sweet Jill
Jill_D: hey!
droma97: I like Jill.
akajipster: I do too
MistyQue: that's so cool
Jill_D: Um...blushing. You can stop now.
DoktorAxt: so i think i'll go now but i need to say before i leave:
DoktorAxt: Gord some day you have time you have to check out darth's and mine self-written andromeda season 6. its far from being done but we're working on it. ;) its written in english and german but since german is my mother-tongue you might forgive some mistakes.
Darth.Hunter(Q): Gordon: Five years is a lot of time to do anything and to build up friendships. Are you still in contact with your former Andromeda colleagues even today?
Gordon Michael Woolvett(A): I keep in touch with Brent and Kevin. From time to time I bump into Steve Bacic and grab a coffee or something after auditions. Laura Bertram came over to see the kids a couple of weeks ago but I wasn't home. So yeah, somewhat.
FnlPrblm: Indeed, it's good to see that you're still hangin' with the old gang.
hacker19: Laura's visiting you and you're not at home ? I would do everything to have her visiting me *gg* (yea im a little jelouss ^^)
Gordon Michael Woolvett: Sounds intriguing Doktor! Until then, Auf Wedersein!1 (bettter?)
onon: yeah
littleredhead: very good Gordon
akajipster: closer I think...
Foxy: much better :)
elyc: much better
mare_serenitatis: almost perfect :) auf Wiedersehn
onon: wedersein?
DoktorAxt: yeah better. :) good night all. sleep well. thanks for the great chat gord
mare_serenitatis(Q): Some actors have a reputation of having lousy social skills and tyrannizing their colleagues and the crew. Have you ever made such bad experiences with your colleagues (or with difficult directors) ?
Gordon Michael Woolvett (A): That was a good question Mare. I do like to joke a lot on set but you have to try and stay professional.
Foxy: wiedersehen = see you again
Jill_D: I knew I should have studied German. The only second language I know is piglatin.
onon: aso wiedersehn danke
littleredhead: lol Jill
droma97: You know who would be interesting to talk to? David Gallagher. He seems to simply everything so well. I'd like to pick his brain sometime
Mara: Jill, what's "piglatin"?
Parisindy1: i should have learned english i can only speak geek
droma97: emay ootay
Jill_D: piglatin is....hard to explain. :)
droma97: I speak incomprehensible fluidly, er, fluently
Parisindy1: who is your favorite director gordon?
FnlPrblm: Mara: it's speaking jiberish, but squeezing in a real word/phrase in the middle.
ElJay: Pig Latin is a made up language where you take the first letter of each word, move it to the end and add "ay" to it. As in "ordon-gay"
littleredhead: I imagine there is a fine line between lightening things up, so to speak, and being unprofessional and joking around too much.
FnlPrblm: It's to confuse kids usually
MistyQue: don't start with the weird tongues, cuz i'll start with japanese lol
Gordon Michael Woolvett: Okay all, I'm sorry but I have to get to bed soon too.
hacker19: well joking on set is good for the Dvd releas ^^ lots of bloopers ^^
Parisindy1: :(
onon: o no
Foxy: thats sad
MistyQue: oh no, he's leaving us...
mare_serenitatis: it must be pretty late, or early rather where you are.
akajipster: it's been great fun gordon, thanks!
littleredhead: Sorry you have to leave Gordon. Thanks for chatting.
droma97: We're so glad you took the time to speak with us, Gordon. We think that's super.
Jill_D: Hey, sleep is...good. Not that I want you to go, but well...sleep is good.
Gordon Michael Woolvett: Paris, my fave director is... I have so many....peter Bogdonavich, Coppola, Scorsese,
FnlPrblm: okay, byes Gordon! :D
onon: night gordon
Foxy: and hey, its Mara's birthday today!
mare_serenitatis: thanks for being so patient with us :)
Parisindy1: thanks for chatting gord it was nice have both you and your brother here
MistyQue: aw well boss, sleep tight
littleredhead: Happy Birthday Mare!
droma97: Have a great night and give our love to the family.
hacker19: ok, good night gordon.
Mara: *blush*
Jill_D: Thanks so much for chatting with us!
onon: happy b-day mara
hacker19: thanks for the chat
elyc: night gordon!< :)
Foxy: good night, Gordon
droma97: God bless you.
MistyQue: thanks for putting up with our crazyness
Eliane: bye gordon! thanks for the chat!!
elyc: thanks for coming!!!!!!!! :)
mare_serenitatis: Julie, it's mara's birthday, not mine
ElJay: Aw, sorry to see you go so soon Gordon, but thanks so much for joining us. And giving vivid images for dreams. :D
Mara: Thanks for answering our questions
akajipster: hehehe
Gordon Michael Woolvett: Happy B-day Mar!
elyc: cant wait for the next chat! ;)
FnlPrblm: Indeed, thanks for the chat both of you.
droma97: Behave, Eljay. :-)
onon: thx for everthing
Foxy: was nice to talk to you again and hope you'll be back at the board soon and also give us you agents address
Jill_D: Hope you'll consent to another chat sometime. These are always fun.
ElJay: Aw, that's no fun!
littleredhead: Eljay is picturing Gordon with his trousers down.
elyc: happy b.-day, mara...;)
mare_serenitatis: Good night and have nice dreams (or naughty ones ;) )
Darth.Hunter: Yeah, thanks for that great session! Was a lot of fun and I hope we'll be able to see you one day in Germany :)
Gordon Michael Woolvett: Great Job once again Jips. The new chat machine is wonderful..
MistyQue: yep
ElJay: Nope--leather and chainmail, I swear!
akajipster: cool glad it worked ok!
MistyQue: jips rules
Jill_D: everyone clap for Jips.
elyc: yeah, thanks jips! :)
droma97: Hooray for Jipster!!!
mare_serenitatis: group hug for jip!
elyc: clap clap
onon: *clap clap*
Darth.Hunter: yup, well done jips
Foxy: *hugs Jips*
FnlPrblm: *claps for Jipster*
hacker19: *clap*
mare_serenitatis: /me huggles jipster
ElJay: Yay for Jispter!
Eliane: *claps*
littleredhead: Thanks Jips and it's nice to see a new bit of technology works well.
Mara: *applauds*
MistyQue: hugs Gordon, thx for chatting with us tonite
droma97: Cheers for Gordon!!
onon: cheers
Darth.Hunter: I had a few doubts at first about using Java, but it worked out just fine
Gordon Michael Woolvett: And the next time you talk to Jaimz, ask him about what happened to him that time when he was wearing tights in dance class. ;)
Parisindy1: hehe
onon: ok...
akajipster: ohh... hehe
Gordon Michael Woolvett: heh heh
Foxy: uh oh
littleredhead: lol
ElJay: Oh, we'll have to remember that one...
Mara: lol
Jill_D: oh...
droma97: You can't leave without telling us about that!!!
elyc: lol
MistyQue: tights in dance class, hmm
droma97: Don't be mean, Gordon!!!
MistyQue: imagine the posibilities
MistyQue: ;)
Parisindy1: were there markers?
Gordon Michael Woolvett: Gotta go! Hugs to all. Until next time... Auf Wiedersehn!
droma97: Pink?
Darth.Hunter: Lol
hacker19: We're going to ^^ // Gute Nacht, Schlaf gut
Parisindy1: night
akajipster: thanks again gordon, its been a lot of fun - see you atlanta!
Foxy: bye Gordon
onon: wiedersehn
Jill_D: Night! Take care.
droma97: Night
mare_serenitatis: it doesn't happen to have somethimg to do with a sudden need for needle and thread, I suppose?
Jill_D: Thanks again.
Darth.Hunter: Bye bye, have a good night!
Mara: Bye & good night
Eliane: gute Nacht!
MistyQue: oyasumi nasai gordon
elyc: bye bye
Foxy: give a hug to your kids, please
mare_serenitatis: good night :)
MistyQue: good night in japanese
Gordon Michael Woolvett: oyasumi nasai
onon: hou hou fan a
Gordon Michael Woolvett: Bonsoir
droma97: He speaks Japanese, Misty!!!!
MistyQue: noapte buna
littleredhead: arivaderci
MistyQue: lol
ElJay: Buenos noches.
Foxy: gute nacht
Jill_D: "So long, farewell...."
Gordon Michael Woolvett: ciao
FnlPrblm: 'night Gordon. Have a safe flight and don't lose your luggage like Jewel did. :)
MistyQue: yep he speaks japanese
droma97: Oooh aren't we clever
Foxy: multilingual

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